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Master of the Universe

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master of the Universe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Recruits, congratulations on finishing the first week!

By looking at the many posts to the thread, I can tell that this has been one hell of a power-packed week for many of you… and this is only the beginning!

Just like in a military boot camp, we’re going to maintain this high intensity atmosphere until we melt the AFC out of us, and become the DJ that’s just burning to get out.

Purpose of this lesson: So, now that you’ve practiced establishing eye contact, and have got more comfortable saying Hi to strangers, this week’s lesson takes us into the next phase – starting a conversation with a stranger!

For many people, this is the second most difficult step, right after dealing with rejections. So if you persevere through this week, you will have attained an unbelievable skill… one that will serve not only in meeting women, but in all aspects of your life.

Reading Material

This conversation stuff really works! by meathead ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000924.html

The number one rule of a conversation is to talk about the other person (the person you’re talking to). By doing this, and having that person talk about herself, you will be perceived as a great conversationalist.

How to be a better conversationalist by Poet ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000235.html

A few quick tips on initiating and maintaining a conversation. Geared more towards a girl you are interested in, but can easily be modified to work on any person.

Pimpology 101: The Conversation - Parts I – III by Pimpologist ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000586.html ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000601.html ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000609.html

Here’s a basic outline for approaching someone, initiating conversation, and establishing rapport.

Pimpolgy 101: Connecting Through Understanding and Relating – Part I by Pimpologist ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/001277.html

An excellent post on having a fun and interesting conversation with anyone… a conversation that the person will really appreciate and enjoy.

Guide to Listening by Sociopath31 ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000715.html

What differentiates a rambler from a good conversationalist is the ability to be a good listener. This is a skill that very few people have, but which everyone appreciates. Here are some tips to becoming a better listener.

Fine tune your sense of humour by JuanWannabe ../../../ubb/Forum6/HTML/000397.html

Let’s face it, a sense of humor is a Godsend. People want to be around people that can make them laugh. Now you’ll learn how to get your humorous and fun side out of the closet, and make the world a better place!

Music Picks by TheRockStar (Songs to get you into the theme of the lesson).

Dave Matthews Band - So Much to Say

Semisonic - Facinating New Things

Black Crowes - She Talk to Angels

Dave Matthews Band - What Would You Say

Garth Brooks - Standing Outside the Fire

No Doubt - Hey Baby

Hot Chocolate - I Believe In Miracles


Exercises,

Alright, so you’ve read the posts above, and you know have an understanding of how to approach people and start a conversation. Now, it’s time to do it!

Your mission is to go out and have short conversations (2 – 10 minute each in length) with 10 strangers. You can talk to them about anything, and you can talk to any person whom you have never spoken to before. You’ll find that it might feel a little awkward in the beginning to talk to strangers for any length of time… but after the first couple of times you’ll find that it’s actually a wonderful feeling. You’ll really get a rush out of this.

Also, keep in mind that most people want to meet other people and have conversations with them, but are just too shy or insecure. So in fact, you will be doing a huge favor to those people whom you decide to hold a conversation with. Plus, I’ll bet you’ll learn new things from them, and maybe even make a couple of new friends. And in this phase of the Boot Camp, don’t let yourself feel limited to speaking to only girls… speak with anyone you want!

In fact, if you’re a bit apprehensive about talking to people, you can start out with those people who are easier for you to approach. For me, this is senior citizens, since I’ve found that most of them love talking with anyone who would give them half an ear, and I’ve found them to be very interesting conversationalists.

After each conversation, write down in your journal what you thought of the conversation, and appx. the length of the conversation (estimate if you don’t have a watch). Once you complete this lesson, post your results, plus the topic of your most interesting conversation, and anything else you wish to share.

You have until this Sunday (May 5) to complete this lesson. Also, make sure you keep on practicing the skills learned in the first lesson (e.g., you can practice establishing eye contact with someone, saying Hi, and going into a conversation. However, initial eye contact or a Hi is not a requirement before initiating a conversation).

Also, a tip that might help you with this lesson, and the next few lessons, is the 3 second rule (You can find it on ASF). What this means is that when you find someone you might be interested in approaching, don't give yourself more than 3 seconds from the moment you are able, to approach them. Anything longer than 3 seconds highly increases the chance that your nerves will work against you, and that you'll chicken out. Even if you have nothing planned to discuss with them, you'll find that you'll amazingly have something to say if you can only force your feet to propel you to the person.

Good luck recruits, we are kicking ass!

Master of the Universe


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"Life's a joke... take it too seriously, and the joke's on you"

[This message has been edited by Master of the Universe (edited 04-29-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Master of the Universe (edited 04-29-2002).]

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Mack

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's do it guys!

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Mack

I can't blame them for loving me, I got many interesting qualities

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mistyc

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finished assignment#1 today, finally!

Funny how grumpy people get when it was sunny 2 weeks ago, cloudy and rainy last week, and snowing during the weekend

Time to read the articles now...

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Struggling

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Struggling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay,I'll just wait for week 3 because confidence and starting conversation with girls isnt much a problem with me. I can have a girl talking for hours. Thats what I'm known for with my friends. Outgoing...

Okay...
so I'll wait for week 3.

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Don Scotta

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Don Scotta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is 2 minutes really a minimum, I've been making convo's with people lately, but even 2 minutes can be long sometimes, i think as long as you start the convo you're ok.

I would play the length of the conversation by ear, I wouldn't want to make a situation awkward just to get to the 2 minute point.

And a 10 minute conversation? With a stranger? I can see in some situations, like when I went to college, everyone smoked out in the gazebo and you could carry on a long conversation because you were on break. But, if I stop someone at the mall for instance, I would not want to talk that long.

I'm not trying to discredit your assignment, I love the bootcamp idea, was just thinking that maybe people shouldn't focus too much on lenght, more play it by ear, but I also understand some people need more direction.

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hellfire104

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hellfire104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok…..wait this is a pretty big step. It was hard enough at least for me and im sure some others to walk through a mall and see a drop dead georgous girl, look into her eyes, smile, and say hello. But now we are stopping, and talking for 2-10 mins with that same situation? Not gunna happen for a lot of people.
I can tell ya right now that a lot of people are thinking that. I am heh. If theres eight weeks, and we are conversational at step 2, then my god by week 5 we are going to be having sex lol. That’s what im thinking.

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Lost

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just heard about this dj booot camp thing. u think i could start a week late?

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XANEUS

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XANEUS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's less than 2 minutes, you really haven't had much of a conversation at all. And 10 mins is something to aim for, never what's required. Just try it guys. I think you'll be surprised about how easy it comes... I've done this at least 5 times in the past week without even making the attempt.

MotU's thing of trying on senior citizens is a great idea if you lack confidence initially. Senior citizens are for the most part very lonely and the absolutely love to talk... the came from an age before TV in which people actually DID talk to eachother on a regular basis. Go to it... I know you can do it.

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XANEUS

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XANEUS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's less than 2 minutes, you really haven't had much of a conversation at all. And 10 mins is something to aim for, never what's required. Just try it guys. I think you'll be surprised about how easy it comes... I've done this at least 5 times in the past week without even making the attempt.

MotU's thing of trying on senior citizens is a great idea if you lack confidence initially. Senior citizens are for the most part very lonely and the absolutely love to talk... the came from an age before TV in which people actually DID talk to eachother on a regular basis. Go to it... I know you can do it.

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backbreaker

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for backbreaker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when you are done can you keep all the links for the differeent weeks together. i am trying my best to go through, but i live in arkansas, and i can't even find 100 women to talk to! It's hard to keep up.

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Master of the Universe

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Master of the Universe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, first of all, if you look back up at the lesson plan, you'll find that there's a new section containing songs titles that are based on this week's lesson. These were suggested by TheRockStar, and I think they'll be very helpful in getting us in the mindset of starting conversations with strangers. Thanks TheRockStar!

mistyc,

"Finished assignment#1 today, finally!"

Congratulations my friend!!!

Don Scotta and hellfire104,

I understand that this may be a difficult step to take, but I think that if you actually give it a shot, you'll find that you'll manage.

Will this take you out of your comfort zone? I hope so, since this is my intention.

However, don't think that you have to stop someone in the street or establish convo with only hot chicks. Talk with anyone you want, in any situation you feel is appropriate.

Here are some locations where it is easier to talk to people:

School or college (if you're in school, it doesn't get simpler than this... talk about the teacher, class, homework, school food ... anything)

Library (talk to the librarian about a new book that's coming out)

Senior citizen's home (nothing that's more rewarding than spending time with someone who actually appreciates it)

Restaurant (Talk with that waitress about how long she's been working there, the weather outside, or anything else. Trust me, she won't mind talking for 2 minutes... she wants a good tip and to make the customer happy, and for her 2 minutes of talking is a no biggie)

Church (People tend to be easy to approach and speak with in a church or other religious gathering)

Many other places (DJs, post other places where you find it easy to talk to people).

If this lesson is virtually impossible for you to complete, then e-mail me at the_masteroftheuniverse@yahoo.com and let me know exactly what is the difficulty, and I'll see what I can do.

But, give it a shot. Trust me, you'll love the wonderful feeling!

Lost,

Welcome aboard. Just start out at week #1 by going to ../../../ubb/Forum1/HTML/014030.html

Master of the Universe

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"Life's a joke... take it too seriously, and the joke's on you"

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hellfire104

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hellfire104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok ill give it an honest effort but seriously
talking to senion citizens and guys is a whole different game then talking to girls.

I can look at a guy anytime and say hi but if its some babe it comes off as more difficult.

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Randall

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does anyone think that talking to ten people is hard? Trigonometry is hard, not conversation. And why would anyone be afraid of talking to ten people? If your going to be afraid of somthing be afraid of war, crime, illness, or death. Those are things to be afraid of, not talking to people. Conversation is a natural act, not something to be apprehensive about.

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Randall

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does anyone think that talking to ten people is hard? Trigonometry is hard, not conversation. And why would anyone be afraid of talking to ten people? If your going to be afraid of somthing be afraid of war, crime, illness, or death. Those are things to be afraid of, not talking to people. Conversation is a natural act, not something to be apprehensive about.

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hellfire104

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hellfire104     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tell ya what randall. If you are so confident about yourself and so unshy and whatever then you don't belong in this forum. and you DEFIATLY don't need to be giving me **** because im shy. This is so help overcome shyness. and your not helping

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StuartScott

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StuartScott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hellfire104:
tell ya what randall. If you are so confident about yourself and so unshy and whatever then you don't belong in this forum. and you DEFIATLY don't need to be giving me **** because im shy. This is so help overcome shyness. and your not helping


STOP CRYING LIKE A B1TCH.

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Powertrip

Master Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Powertrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MotU, I'm really impressed. Week #2 is exactly something that I had outlined in my "self-improvement project", so I'll be following along in spirit, but to a different degree. Keep up the good work!

BTW, sorry I didnt get out Friday night, unfortunately it was a late night at work and I pretty much passed out afterwards. Shoot me an email (I wrote you back last time, however it got bounced back <?> ) and let me know if you want to try again sometime.

-C.

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valikyule

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for valikyule     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arg,

I talked to a girl in Blimpie for 2,3 minutes about whether she has any subways that she recommends. After that, we stopped talking.

Must try harder, laterz

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Randall

Don Juan
posted 04-29-2002 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hellfire104:
tell ya what randall. If you are so confident about yourself and so unshy and whatever then you don't belong in this forum. and you DEFIATLY don't need to be giving me **** because im shy. This is so help overcome shyness. and your not helping

Boo-hoo! So your shy. Why don't you do something about it, huh? Do you really think complaining about it is going to do you ANY good whatsover? Complaining is POINTLESS. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just telling you that it is not hard to start a conversation with someone. Just do it! What is the worst possible circumstance that could happen? The worst thing is getting embarresed in front of someone you will probrably never see again. Now, is that really that bad?

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Ronin

Master Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the dumb question but is it 10 people per day? Or is it 10 people throught the week?

Sean

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anti-trend

Master Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anti-trend     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin:
Sorry for the dumb question but is it 10 people per day? Or is it 10 people throught the week?

Sean


for the week, if you can do 10 a day more power to you.

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newdj

Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for newdj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guyz...

I think that this is the most important part of the Boot camp thingy.... First let me tell you a bit about myself,

I think the main reason i am shy is that people dont understand me when i talk, thats why i try to avoid conversations. You see English is not my first language but i leave in a country that uses English as the main language. When i speak people usually tend to not understand me sometimes(Not always though) and i have to repeat what i just said sometimes twice or three times, which i find very annoying. Its not that i cannot speak english, im sure you can tell by my writing that im quite good at it. Infact at school i got one of the highest grades compared to poeple born with English as their mother tongue.

My main problem is pronounciation i pronounced words with a different accent. (The funny thing is that if i speak to someone from my own country in English he/she understands every single word i say). And to make things worse i have one of the deepest voices ever. My voice is sounds like a 'Boom Box'

At first i thought it would disappear after livin here for a while.. well guess what its been almost 6 yrs.. Thats when i realised that the problem is not the english, but my voice!!

I never really talk to poeple on the phone coz usually i feel like im trying to explain to a three yr old everything im sayin. And when im out in clubs or or in Pubs you can imagine how worse it is with all the loud music !!!

Now i know that my problem is not sparking up a conversation or making it last.. coz if you speak my language i would make you talk the **** out of yourself for hours. But no one here speaks my language!!! I'm sure if i wasn't havin this problem with poeple undertanding me i would be an expert in DJing coz i dont really find it a problem talking to poeple who speaks the same language as me..

So what would the DJz advice??

ps. I think this DJ Boot Camp thing is a great idea, im sure a lot of poeple (Including me) would benefit from it in the end..

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Ronin

Master Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can think of is when your talking just SLOW DOWN and try to prounounce (Sp?) every word so that even f you have an accent, your still speaking slow enough for people to understand. Also, there is nothing wrong with a deep voice. Most girls think that a deep voice is sexy.

PEace

Sean

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T Dog

Master Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T Dog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hellfire104:
ok ill give it an honest effort but seriously
talking to senion citizens and guys is a whole different game then talking to girls.

I can look at a guy anytime and say hi but if its some babe it comes off as more difficult.


Hellfire, in exercise #2 MOTU is giving you a forum to develop the skills ands tools to become comfortable talking with anyone. The goal of this exercise is to talk to everyone regardless of who they are, guy or girl. Don't concentrate on whether they are a hot girl or a fat chick or the mailman, in fact act like they are all the mailman and ignore everything else. Later you will use these skills that you are learning now to talk with the hot girls. By then it should be second nature.

Right now just have fun.

T Dog

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Lost

Master Don Juan
posted 04-30-2002 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im gonna try to combine both week 1 and 2 this week so i wont be behind . Im hopefully going to the mall this weekend with my friend because 1(i need new clothes and ****),2 to practice all this boot camp stuff .

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