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pulse

Master Don Juan
posted 05-14-2002 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pulse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Imagine if every time you talked to a girl, she told you EXACTLY what to say to her, what to ask her, and how you should respond to her questions.

If you were to have this ability, wouldn't it make any approach a piece of cake?

Lot's of people have been messaging me on AIM (silentjohn) or posting about conversation. People wondering about every detail of a conversation, hoping they can devise a plan worthy of Don Juan standards.

Everything from when should kino be used, to what kind of questions to ask, to intricate, yet meaningless details like when they should smile or how they should laugh.

All of this planning might help, considered everything runs perfectly. But in order to become truly great at conversation you must increase your ability to work on the spot.

With that in mind, here is a basic outline to get you going on the structure and base of pickup convo.
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The first step to good convo, is being observant. Notice what your target is wearing. Is she wearing any jewlery? Is there something about her hair you find interesting? What is the first genuine unique quality you can compliment them on that springs to mind?

The second step, is to mention something about what you noticed... a great example I use all the time is "Hey, that's an interesting <object>, where did you get it?"

This opener get's them talking about themselves and also gives you lots of info to work with. Let's disect a typical response.

"Oh, well, my parents gave it to me on my 16th birthday, I really like it"

You can now relate the information she gave you to a broader subject.

"Yeah, I like how it accents your wrist, so did you have a big party on your 16th birthday or what?"

Notice how the subject was linked to a larger topic, which in turn will open up even more to talk about. Continuing the example:

her: "Well, it was an alright party..."
you: "Oh, well if you were to have your ideal party, what would it be like?"

Notice how this response got the target to use her imagination. This is the key that will pump the don juan factor you present. Rather than relaying facts, you are getting your target to imagine the ultimate party, you can then follow up with your own input.

"Haha, damn that does sound like a badass party, you definately sound like someone I should get to know better...I would have had my party outside though..I like doing stuff outdoors"

This will get her asking about why.. and here is your chance to really boost the mystery factor. The key to this is to avoid directly answering the question at all costs. Continuing with our example:

Her: well what do you like to do outside?
you: Well.. you know that real refreshing feeling you get from being outside? That nice organic healthy warm feeling you get when you're out and enjoying the nice weather? I think that alone is worth it...what about you? What's your favorite time to be outside?"

Yet again, this allowed her imagination to get going. It also added to your mystery. She knows WHY you enjoy being outside, and got to imagine those nice warm feelings for herself, but she didn't get to find out WHAT you do outside...

This type of convo can be carried from nearly anything, you just have to pay attention to whats being said. You can also use the information she gives you later on, to describe YOUR favorite food/weather/whatever you talk about... But you get to use her descriptave words, which will really boost the rapport between the two of you.

There are 3 major types of people. Visual, Audio, and Kinesthetic... Pay attention when your target is describing the objects from her wildest dreams, notice what kind of words shes using to describe it all. An example of a visual person might be "..yeah.. and you can just see the perfect sunset between the most beautiful mountains.." Or a primarly kinesthetic person might say "there is a nice gentle breeze, not cold.. but warm, and the sunshine feels great." And of course an aural person might respond with "Yeah.. you can hear the birds in the distance.."

Those are major clues you can rememmber to use when describing things to them. It isn't always that dramatic though, you should also pay attention to their normal small talk. Someone who always says "you see what im saying?" Is a visual person, and you now know how to get their juices flowing when you describe the ultimate adventure, or etc.

As far as kinesthetics go.. (kino) It should be used wherever you feel natural, but be sure and test them with it. Invade their space. Slowly at first, such as arm pats.. then work to arm strokes and so on.


Once you have these basic outlines to work from, convo is easier than a $5 dollar *****.

Remember, open with something about them, get them talking... then get their imagination going... Make sure and input, but keep the mystery up.

Ways of keeping yourself mysterious are also just as easy. A major way to do this is just talk about mysterious things. Branch off into the unknown.. an example following our birthday convo might be "Oh, so are you into astrology at all?" From that you can branch to lesser known forms of astrology, like the chinese zodiac, or numerology, just think "more mysterious" than the basic subject of convo.

So now that I've described an example of convo, and how it works, I'll break it down into a simple easy to follow outline.

observe
1.accessories
2.clothing
3.general body language (very usefull)

act
1.ask about what you noticed
2.pay attention to response, inform WHY you asked about what you observed (this MUST be sincere)

imagine
1.Branch into a subject, but use their imagination to your advantage. Their wildest dreams are greater than anything you can describe. Use openers like "Imagine if..." or "If you were to.." This get's them thinking about it... notice how I started this guide?
2.Guide their imagination by remaining mysterious. Answer nothing directly. Tease them with your information, let them wonder...

deny
1.Now that you have them dripping in creativity and wonderment, focusing on their dreams and thinking up amazing things about you thanks to your mysterious responses.. it's time to close it off while it's still hot.

You want to bring them to a "peak" then break off, making them want more of your conversation. This of course, will build challenge, which is a HUGE advantage.

an example:

you: well it's been great talking to you.. what was your name?
her: I am Xena, warrior princess...

From here you have some options..
1. Number close
2. Meeting close
3. Mystery close

I reccomend option 1 or 2, unless you are SURE you will see this person again.

The mystery close is just what it says, leaving in mystery. an example:

you: "well i've had lots of fun talking to you but i'm running a little late, what was your name?"
her: I am xena, warrior princess
you: Cool, well I'll [see you around/talk to you later/run into you later.(use the according response based on what type of person they are, as mentioned earlier)]

Notice you didn't offer your name. Always try and get THEM to ask for your name. And if since this is the mystery close, the less she knows the better... more imagination for her brain to chew on.

I'll cover the other methods of closing in another article, as this one is getting kind of lengthy. Any input is appreciated and I hope my method helps you out.

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"Always leave them wanting more."

[This message has been edited by pulse (edited 05-18-2002).]

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Rack'emUP

Don Juan
posted 05-14-2002 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rack'emUP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally think this is a great post. Impressive. And I like the whole Xena thing. Funny.

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Jester

Master Don Juan
posted 05-14-2002 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
badass post dude.

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Aiken_Drum

Master Don Juan
posted 05-15-2002 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aiken_Drum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto the 2 above, great ideas.

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because they'd never expect it." --Jack Handey's "Deep Thoughts"

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future marine

Don Juan
posted 05-15-2002 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future marine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its bible worthy in my opinion

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Lorenzo

Moderator
posted 05-15-2002 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God damn... I swear, that was just plain beautiful.

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Master Don Juan
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pulse

Master Don Juan
posted 05-16-2002 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pulse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. thanks. What kind of post would you guys like next?

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"Always leave them wanting more."

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The Matrix

Master Don Juan
posted 05-18-2002 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Matrix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sheds a tear*... that's all I can say about that work of art

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xanderbaz

Master Don Juan
posted 05-18-2002 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xanderbaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*BUMP*
Beautiful. Bible material.

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kamikazemunky

Don Juan
posted 05-19-2002 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kamikazemunky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nice post dude

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Lost

Master Don Juan
posted 05-19-2002 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PURE GENIUS !!!

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dip

Don Juan
posted 05-25-2002 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great post man...your one of the top DJ's on my list...these are the posts that make me come here more often

if you dont mind, could you add an example of the
1. Number close
2. Meeting close

thanks.

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