Don Juan Hosted Chat Event: 3rd and 4th September 2003
Introduction
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Juan Chat - Hosted Event in progress'
[00:05] <NicholasHill> ok
[00:05] <NicholasHill> welcome to the chat event guys
[00:05] <fender85> thanks for having us
[00:05] <Andy> :)
[00:06] <NicholasHill> me and a few djs got together and thought it would
be a good idea to get together for such events rather than have a channel
constantly exist and hope that there are a constant stream of members
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[00:06] <NicholasHill> so this is the first ever event for djs
[00:07] * fender85 waits in anticipation
[00:07] <NicholasHill> i'll explain the topics of discussion in a minute,
but first, the rules
[00:07] <NicholasHill> 1) Please use board nicknames if you have them
[00:07] <NicholasHill> we need to identify you in relation to who we think
you are on the boards
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[00:07] <NicholasHill> 2) Please do not swear - These rules include those
from the boards
[00:07] <NicholasHill> 3) Do not use control characters.
[00:07] <NicholasHill> chances are, if you don't know what control
characters are, then you wont be using them..
[00:08] <NicholasHill> 4) Act like well behaved DJs!
[00:08] <NicholasHill> 5) You don't have to strictly be on topic all of
the time, but try to generally stay within the topics
[00:08] <NicholasHill> 6) Do not use shorthand such as u, r, ppl, etc
(Err, but you can use etc)
[00:08] <NicholasHill> and finally
[00:08] <NicholasHill> 7) You must not use any scripting or allow
automated output of text
[00:08] <NicholasHill> this includes "i'm away"
[00:09] <NicholasHill> ok
[00:09] <TDK> 8) absolutely no CYBERING
[00:09] <TDK> lmao
[00:09] <NicholasHill> the chat is divided into three sessions
[00:09] <NicholasHill> haha
[00:09] * fender85 puts his internet cock down
[00:09] <NicholasHill> session one will be "Putting into action that
which we read."
[00:09] <Pimp-ish> darn..
[00:09] <TDK> lol
[00:10] <NicholasHill> session two: "Tips on finding new friends that
are natural DJs. "
[00:10] <NicholasHill> and session three: "Long term relationships.
"
[00:10] <NicholasHill> this chat should last for about an hour, maybe more
[00:10] <NicholasHill> Chat will be logged, and posted
[00:10] <NicholasHill> If you're responding to someone, type their name
before your response
[00:10] <NicholasHill> For example, "NicholasHill: I agree"
[00:10] <NicholasHill> Feel free to use whisper windows.
[00:11] <NicholasHill> ok thats it for the introduction
[00:11] <NicholasHill> you can all speak now!
[00:11] <NicholasHill> the first section of the chat will follow...
Putting into action that which we read
[00:11] <NicholasHill> First topic:
"Putting into action that which we read"
[00:11] <TDK> how often are thses sessions gonna take place?
[00:12] <NicholasHill> not sure yet
[00:12] <NicholasHill> lets see how this one goes
[00:12] <NicholasHill> many people are newbies on the board, guys, and
they read mostly the bible - but whats the difference between reading and
acting?
[00:12] <TDK> action
[00:13] <TDK> lol
[00:13] <fender85> uhh . . . getting some?
[00:13] <TDK> from the ladies
[00:13] <Pimp-ish> there is a world of difference..the confidence level is
still a lot lower
[00:13] <Pimp-ish> theory with out any practical use is useless
[00:13] <Grunge> pimp: how are they going to get confidence
[00:13] <Ojete> sometimes it takes time to assimilate the experiencies
into what is read
[00:13] <fender85> confidence takes real world experience
[00:13] <TDK> i can speak personally about that
[00:14] <TDK> i read the bible and the boards for over 6 months straight
[00:14] <TDK> until i put any of it into action
[00:14] <Pimp-ish> Grunge: by going out there and trying to act on what
they read
[00:14] <Pimp-ish> getting over the fear of rejection
[00:14] <TDK> it was only until then that i saw success
[00:14] <Andy> in theory all is possible,the action counts
[00:14] <TDK> one thing i can say is that
[00:14] <TDK> in the past i didnt have the experience with the ladies
[00:15] <TDK> but the fact that i had all of this knowledge
[00:15] <TDK> from sosuave
[00:15] <TDK> that did alot for my confidence
[00:15] <Grunge> tdk: good point
[00:15] <TDK> and sorta on some level made up for my inexperience when i
put that knowledge into action
[00:15] <Pimp-ish> Getting out of your comfort zone is very important..
everyone, myself included, should be able to approach a woman in a cold pickup
environment and strike a conversation, get the number, set up a successful date,
etc.
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[00:15] <fender85> like nicholas said earlier, it's all a process. you
first have to figure out what you're doing wrong (enter DJ Bible), and then as
you become more comfortable with it you are able to start using it
[00:16] <NicholasHill> guys, what do you think is the ultimate motivation
for finally taking action?
[00:16] <fender85> for me it was hitting rock bottom
[00:16] <Pimp-ish> getting rejected even though I knew I deserved better..
[00:16] <Ojete> that if you don't do it, nobody will do it for you, only
you can make it happen, first in your mind then in the field
[00:16] <TDK> lonliness-being completely unfufilled
[00:16] <Ojete> you will get older and you will regret it
[00:17] <Pimp-ish> Ojete: that's a good point
[00:17] <fender85> i could get chicks interested in me really well. i am
just a natural that way (mostly my personality), but then i'd notice that they
liked me and i'd go totally AFC on them, thinking that's what they wanted
[00:17] <Pimp-ish> this is the time to do it..
[00:17] <Duke> yeah Photo1's post got me motivated. In it, he has the
reader do an exercise in which he has only a few minutes to live.
[00:17] <TDK> yeah i remember that one well too
[00:17] <fender85> yeah, i remember that one
[00:17] <TDK> that one made me think alot
[00:17] <Andy> i guess that you actually get to get to pull the stuff that
you read....and see them work
[00:18] <Duke> Yeah seeing results is big
[00:18] <Duke> I'm trying kino out for the first time this weekend fellas,
wish me luck :)
[00:18] <fender85> i wish i would've had this info during high school, but
hey that's what college is for . . .
[00:18] <Grunge> ok :)
[00:18] <TDK> have fun with it duke
[00:19] <fender85> yeah duke have fun with it, god knows i do
[00:19] <fender85> lol
[00:19] <NicholasHill> duke: kino is great
[00:19] <TDK> nothing like feeling up a girl
[00:19] <TDK> lol
[00:19] <Duke> thanks heh
[00:19] <Ojete> you'll surely have fun
[00:19] <Ojete> :)
[00:19] <Grunge> If you are having a bad day what do you do
[00:19] <NicholasHill> guys, do you have any early examples of you coming
out and finally putting stuff into practise?
[00:19] <TDK> hell yeah
[00:19] <TDK> when i first started coming to this site
[00:19] <TDK> i was just reading and absorbing
[00:19] <TDK> and not doing anything with the info
[00:19] <TDK> but then one night
[00:20] <TDK> i was a bit buzzed and myy inhibitions
[00:20] <TDK> were dropped a bit
[00:20] <TDK> and i started busting on one of my sitsers friends
[00:20] <TDK> in a lighhearted way
[00:20] <TDK> well anyway
[00:20] <TDK> at the end of the party
[00:20] <TDK> we were left alone
[00:20] <TDK> in a room and i started doing subtle kino
[00:21] <TDK> and invading her persoanl space
[00:21] <TDK> adn saw how accepting she was to it
[00:21] <TDK> so i decided to do more purposeful kino
[00:21] <TDK> which she was still really accepting to
[00:21] <TDK> after that i did the number close
[00:21] <GigaloDJ> i g/g take care of some business DJ's...remember, you
are The Man of Mystery (no not austin powers)....later
[00:21] <TDK> and well 2 months later she became my girlfriend
[00:21] <TDK> the funny thing is that
[00:22] <TDK> when i first started talking to this girl she showed not
interest at all
[00:22] <NicholasHill> how did you feel when you noticed she wasn't
shrugging off your kino?
[00:22] <Ojete> TDK, my experience with kino is very similar
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[00:22] <TDK> but by the time i had my way-she was giving me signals like
she was air traffic control
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[00:22] <Duke> oh man you guys are getting me pumped
[00:22] <DJ> hey
[00:22] <TDK> it gave me a huge burst of confidence
[00:22] * DJ is now known as Guest8910
[00:22] <TDK> when she was accepting my kino
[00:23] <TDK> which allowed me to take it to the next level
[00:23] <TDK> with her
[00:23] <Guest8910> this is IronGirevik
[00:23] <Guest8910> crap
[00:23] <Guest8910> name screwed up
[00:23] <Andy> you just realize that the stuff does work...
[00:23] <fender85> early examples? sure i have one. there was this chick
that i was mad AFC in love with, but she never returned the feelings. after
reading the bible i decide to call her out (called her an attention whore) and
then i cut off all communication. didn't talk to her for a month (hard when you
have class with them and you sit right next to them). so anyway i DJ'd other
girls right in front of her and acted like my life was so much better ev
[00:24] <TDK> hell yeah fender
[00:24] <Ojete> i remember when i started using C/F after i read d&d,
the next night i went out, used a lot of kino combined with this girl who is now
my current GF
[00:24] * Guest8910 is now known as DJIronGirevik
[00:24] <fender85> and it really gets the girl worked up too
[00:24] <NicholasHill> fender: your line cuts off after "was so much
better ev"
[00:24] <DJIronGirevik> here we go
[00:24] <fender85> ok. i'll fix it
[00:24] <Ojete> i mean DyD
[00:25] <Duke> how old is everyone here btw?
[00:25] <DJIronGirevik> 18
[00:25] <Ojete> and that's what i enjoy most doing c/f naturally
[00:25] <Ojete> 20
[00:25] <crunchtime> 16
[00:25] <Pimp-ish> 21
[00:25] <Andy> i havent finished the whole bible yet but i allready got a
cute girl on me
[00:25] <Andy> 20
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[00:25] <NicholasHill> have any of you guys read the new stream of boot
camp journals? have any of you done the boot camp?
[00:25] <TDK> 21
[00:26] <Duke> 17 here, trying to get a range, thanks
[00:26] <fender85> ok here's the rest . . . ever since that happened, and
then fast forward one month. i'm at a party, she makes eye contact with me and
then hugs me and tells me how sorry she is and how she's missed me. so i play
c&f all night with increasing kino (and alcohol. lol) and i f closed at the
end of the night
[00:26] <fender85> i'm 18 by the way
[00:26] <NicholasHill> excellent, fender
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[00:26] <Duke> Nick, I'm contemplating starting the bootcamp now, but
completing it will take a long time. I feel like I have a good grasp of some
things and that it's redundant. Do you still reccomend taking it?
[00:26] <fender85> thanks. it was my first victory on the great path to
DJism
[00:26] <Boricua_33015> hey!
[00:27] <fender85> duke - i would if i were you. it's all about steps man
[00:27] <TDK> i wanna know what was everyones turning point, the one
moment when things turned around and went "RIGHT" for them
[00:27] <Boricua_33015> whaat, i got this fine hb8.5 on lock!
[00:27] <NicholasHill> duke: i think the bootcamp has a nice learning
curve. starts off easy and gets almost impossible, but Walden has almost
finished it
[00:27] <Boricua_33015> well... its progressing really well
[00:27] <NicholasHill> walden actually created week eight
[00:27] <fender85> duke - you start out slow and then bam . . . it's
natural
[00:28] <Boricua_33015> man.... i have a problem with the bootcamp
[00:28] <fender85> dude walden did so much for my confidence. he is an
iron man
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[00:28] <Boricua_33015> is it only set for white people or something?
latinos over here would look at you crazy if you say hi to them and you dont
nkow them
[00:28] * fender85 laughs
[00:29] <Boricua_33015> can I change it to a simple nod
[00:29] <Boricua_33015> ?
[00:29] <digitalrat> Boricua_33015: youre spanish?
[00:29] <Boricua_33015> yup.... puerto rican
[00:29] <digitalrat> Boricua_33015: Que Vola
[00:29] <Boricua_33015> would a simple nod be a good alternative?
[00:29] <fender85> most latinos i know go off on a girl when they see her
[00:29] <NicholasHill> its difficult to make the bootcamp specific - its
generic
[00:29] <fender85> maybe it's because they're going after white women. i
dunno . . .
[00:30] <Boricua_33015> wussup mang..... lol I dunno spanish though man,
Im taking the class though with this b1tch teacher
[00:30] * digitalrat is Cuban
[00:30] <Boricua_33015> she almost sent me out because i called her on her
mistakes, shes so dumb
[00:30] <Ojete> digitalrat: que bolon
[00:30] * Ojete too
[00:30] <digitalrat> Boricua_33015: I have found out...That all spanish
teachers are mean
[00:31] <squirrels> I don't think I've ever had a mean Spanish teacher.
[00:31] <DJIronGirevik> nah the ones at my school aren't mean
[00:31] <DJIronGirevik> just weird
[00:31] <fender85> not mine. she was hot. one of my friends DJ'd her and
ended up sleeping with her
[00:31] <Boricua_33015> yes man.... this woman, she doesnt lighten up
man.... i mean.... i try to call her on her mistake because she thinks shes
perfect, and she gets all serious and bitchy
[00:31] <NicholasHill> guys, name all the places you think are good and
bad for DJs to go out and try their stuff, for example, if theyre in the
bootcamp. Say a place, then say GOOD or BAD, thene explain why (try to do it one
line and keep it short)
[00:31] <DJIronGirevik> the first one was monotone
[00:31] <DJIronGirevik> second one was probably a stoner
[00:31] <DJIronGirevik> the third one was just cool
[00:32] <Boricua_33015> well the mens bathroom is definately not a good
place
[00:32] <digitalrat> DJIronGirevik: were they spanish?
[00:32] <NicholasHill> haha
[00:32] <NicholasHill> such as, a pub - is the pub a good place?
[00:32] <Andy> :)
[00:32] <DJIronGirevik> the stoner one was
[00:32] <Boricua_33015> .... over here we dont have pubs
[00:32] <squirrels> I can't see how it wouldn't be...it IS a tougher
atmosphere, though.
[00:32] <Boricua_33015> we have clubs
[00:32] <Ojete> the mall: GOOD for EC practices and 'hi' to strangers
[00:32] <fender85> mall - good. lots of hot chicks. fish in a barrell
[00:32] <fender85> your house - bad. most people look down on incest
[00:33] <Boricua_33015> yes, mall is really good
[00:33] <Duke> lol
[00:33] <Boricua_33015> lol
[00:33] <digitalrat> Is there any bars around here?
[00:33] <fender85> pubs are good. i don't recommend clubs to start with
though. so crowded and loud that it becomes sorta difficult to hold
conversations
[00:33] <Boricua_33015> not really man.... unless you go to like daytona
[00:34] <squirrels> When you're trying to go through the process of saying
hi to people, do you wait for eye contact? And if it doesn't come, do you say hi
anyway?
[00:34] <TDK> never underestimate school to meet women- i meet so many at
school everyweek
[00:34] <digitalrat> walk South beach, or ft.laud
[00:34] <squirrels> And is it done differently in that situation?
[00:34] <Boricua_33015> actually, in hollywood my dad used to go to a
couple pubs..... but only midaged people and old people go to pubs here
[00:34] <fender85> i generally wait for eye contact. i mean every chick i
have seen in passing always at least looks at me
[00:34] <Boricua_33015> ahh.... i had a different idea on pubs
[00:34] <NicholasHill> where do you guys think the EASIEST place is to go
for new guys who want to get some initial success?
[00:34] <Boricua_33015> mall
[00:35] <fender85> mall and school campus
[00:35] <TDK> pubs are a great place because you can talk to the ladies
there unlike in clubs where it is too loud to talk
[00:35] <digitalrat> school for youngins
[00:35] <Boricua_33015> yes, i forgot about school
[00:35] <fender85> school campus definitely
[00:35] <fender85> i mean the girls are just WAITING for someone to come
talk to them
[00:35] <Duke> i go to all guy school :(
[00:35] <Boricua_33015> ok... give me the definition of pub because I
thought pubs dont allow poeple under 18
[00:35] <TDK> pub is just another name for bar
[00:35] <TDK> particularly irish bar
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[00:36] <Duke> school dances? high school football games?
[00:36] <squirrels> The good thing about college is that everyone's
looking to meet new people, and they're also educated and pretty level-headed,
so they're willing to chat you up even if they don't know you.
[00:36] <TDK> yeah i agree squirrels
[00:36] * Boricua_33015 slaps squirrels around a bit with a large trout
[00:36] <squirrels> High school is a little tougher...there's a lot of
emphasis on "popularity".
[00:36] <Boricua_33015> hahah, cool
[00:36] <TDK> the high school crowd is too immature
[00:36] <Pimp-ish> sorry..I was away for a bit..
[00:36] <TDK> but the college crowd is right on
[00:36] <TDK> theyre all looking to get laid
[00:36] <squirrels> But if you're honestly cool with yourself, then say
hello anyway, and anyone who blows you off isn't worth the trouble.
[00:36] <fender85> yeah, college people are so cool. i mean it's all about
who you are, not who you know (all though i did know pretty much everyone at my
HS)
[00:36] <TDK> and arent scared to flaunt it
[00:36] <Boricua_33015> man the girls in high school... no, people in high
school dont like having serious conversations
[00:37] <squirrels> Boot camp isn't about serious convos.
[00:37] <NicholasHill> i think a university campus is golden
[00:37] <Boricua_33015> everyone in my high school speak in their own
playful banter
[00:37] <Pimp-ish> clubs are not really a good way because girls get hit
on all the time, their bitch shields are already up once you meet them.. it is a
great way to get over rejection though
[00:37] <digitalrat> "She looks good, but she aint that fresh...Body
may be nice, but her brain is a mess...She looks good but she aint all that, her
behind is fat, but her mind is wack"
[00:37] <Boricua_33015> see.... but im accustomed to only seriousness....
[00:37] <WWFC> i am curently at college in england and im wondering if its
worth going to college?
[00:37] <Boricua_33015> but i still joke around though.. im just known to
switch the mood of the conversation alot
[00:38] <TDK> in college people are open about what they want and arent
scared to admit it which cuts out on the games
[00:38] <WWFC> university
[00:38] <NicholasHill> ok guys, we'll be moving on soon, but i'll ask a
few more questions on the topic in a minute
[00:38] <NicholasHill> WWFC: yes. university is the best time of my life
[00:38] <NicholasHill> WWFC: for the uk, at least
[00:38] <fender85> the girls in college are so different. i met some of my
sister's friends (while i was still in high school) and man that's when i
realized just how horny girls are
[00:38] <TDK> nicholas: just wondering whewre do you go?
[00:38] <squirrels> What kind of results do you bootcamp guys get at
places like gyms and supermarkets?
[00:39] <NicholasHill> TDK: university of wales, swansea
[00:39] <fender85> gym isn't so great. i mean everyone is in their own
world trying to get their workout done. but if you can break down that shield
then it's all about your game
[00:39] <WWFC> yeah cheers, ill need one that allows you in with a couple
of a levels though
[00:40] <Boricua_33015> the gym has the hottest hoes ive ever seen
[00:40] <NicholasHill> ok, guys, another question for you: why do you
think new people to the DJ lifestyle can't/won't go out there and actually do
pickups?
[00:40] <fender85> like go to a chick who is working out using on of the
machines and ask her if she needs a spotter . . . just some off beat funny line
that she wouldn't expect
[00:40] <digitalrat> My gym is more of a homely environment, everybody
talks and jokes with everybody
[00:40] <fender85> REJECTION
[00:41] <Pimp-ish> yeah, the gym is pretty difficult, but if you get eye
contact and smile and you get a return smile, you should find a time in between
the girl's workout to go and talk to her
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> fear
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> fear of everything, and mental boundaries
[00:41] <Pimp-ish> fearr
[00:41] <Pimp-ish> definitely fear
[00:41] <Pimp-ish> fear of being rejected in a public place.. fear of
looking out of place
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> they dont realize that the boundaries originated
from them... their mind set the boundaries
[00:41] <fender85> i think it's all about that rejection. i mean most AFCs
and RAFCs equate this with death
[00:41] <Pimp-ish> fear of looking like a weirdo or a stalker
[00:41] <NicholasHill> do you think low self image is a major reason?
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> excuses
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> YES
[00:41] <Boricua_33015> VERY
[00:41] <Andy> thinking of making a fool in front of other people
[00:42] <digitalrat> They havent done it before...They dont know what to
say...etc
[00:42] <squirrels> When they first try it, they do it kind of
half-heartedly, so they get rejected, then they say to themselves either
"I'm not ready" or "this crap doesn't work."
[00:42] <Boricua_33015> lack of motivation
[00:42] <WWFC> 9/10 people dont have a clue what to say
[00:42] <Pimp-ish> yes, low self image is because if they do get rejected,
like fender said, it's death
[00:42] <Pimp-ish> WWFC is right about that too
[00:43] <squirrels> Honestly...if you go out to a college bar or a club,
every hot girl has about 10 guys hitting on her...that's another reason. You
don't want to be known as "#11".
[00:43] <digitalrat> Try to get a gf, THEN practice street pickups
[00:43] <NicholasHill> what's the best way to fix the problem of not
knowing how to handle a conversation?
[00:43] <Pimp-ish> I often ask my friends to approach girls that seem to
be giving them good EC, but they get flustered then they try to approach because
they dont know what to say
[00:43] <Pimp-ish> when*
[00:43] <fender85> nicholas - just listen to her, take what she says, and
reform it into a question
[00:43] <squirrels> How do you distinguish yourself from the rest of the
"approachers" in a competitive environment?
[00:43] <squirrels> So you're not just "another dude hitting on
her"?
[00:44] <digitalrat> Dont look like your "approaching"
[00:44] <digitalrat> or "macking"
[00:44] <fender85> continued . . . you ask where she's from. she answers.
you take that place, and then ask her how long she's lived there, what she likes
about it, etc
[00:44] <NicholasHill> i guess you would use advanced stuff like kino,
neghits, speed-seduction, being calm - because everyone else would be nervous
[00:44] <digitalrat> Look like you have a interest in her and not just
trying to "hook up"
[00:44] <Pimp-ish> how do you not like you're approaching?
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> look like*
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> sorry
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> squirrels: I would say.. just have an air of confidence
when you do approach
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> and have something ready to say if they make an excuse
[00:45] <Boricua_33015> it IS an approach by itself
[00:45] <Boricua_33015> actually!
[00:45] <NicholasHill> ok guys, i'll be moving on to section two soon -
you have a few minutes to close your current thoughts so don't rush
[00:45] <squirrels> LOL...but all these assholes have an air of
confidence.
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> such as "I wasn't asking for marriage, just a
dance"
[00:45] <Boricua_33015> no, when a girl is next to you, and you just
comment on the surroundings, that doesnt make it seem like an approach
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> or something to that effect
[00:45] <Pimp-ish> that one has worked for me before
[00:46] <WWFC> let her know that you dont have the time to try to impress
her like the other guys
[00:46] <Boricua_33015> thats something i do alot, i set myself up to be
close to the girl I want to mack, and I start a natural convo from there
[00:46] <digitalrat> Pimp-ish: Just by having fun and not caring
[00:46] <WWFC> actually tell her that
[00:46] <fender85> squirrels . . . start off slow like you just want to
get to know her. that lowers her bitch shield because it's not a pick up, it's
like a new friend. then after few minutes you start the kino and you turn it
into something more
[00:46] <Pimp-ish> it's hard to establish value when every guy has already
hit on her
[00:47] <Andy> well the guys that hit her didnt have a clue ,
[00:47] <NicholasHill> one minute
[00:47] <NicholasHill> then ill move on
[00:47] <Boricua_33015> ive never done a cold pickup, all of my pimpin
came natural.... it didnt even seem like I approached
[00:47] <Pimp-ish> fender85: how do you start off slow in the club?
because the music is too loud to talk, so you must establish something right
away
[00:47] <Pimp-ish> once you start dancing, then you can whisper in her ear
[00:47] <Boricua_33015> the club i think is only for 1 nite stands, so
never take it slow in the club
[00:48] <Boricua_33015> and potential ltr, forgot to add that
[00:48] <squirrels> Yeah...club is a little different. Everyone's looking
to go crazy. Often, though, it's up to you to supply the spark to get them
going.
[00:48] <Pimp-ish> i think i've become too used to trying to pickup in
clubs.. Boricua_33015: you are right to some degree
[00:48] <fender85> i don't talk much in clubs. i tap on the shoulder, ask
her to dance, and then if i do need to talk, i go in and talk into her ear
[00:48] <digitalrat> Pimp-ish: Most guys will go up and say "Hi,
whats your name?...You have a boyfriend?(Which is not a bad question, just
depends on how you do it)..." and they'' keep it REAL short, and they dont
seem interested in HER
[00:48] <Grunge> is it really important to be seen as the alpha in a pu?
[00:48] <fender85> yes
[00:48] <Grunge> if your with a wingman
[00:49] <fender85> yeah, your wingman is there to fight off cock blocks
[00:49] <NicholasHill> ok guys
[00:49] <WWFC> my first action when i get back to college is to expand my
social group but im not old enough to g to bars so i need to get around this one
[00:49] <NicholasHill> the second topic of conversaion is as follows
[00:49] <Pimp-ish> digitalrat: true
Tips on finding new friends that are natural DJs
[00:49] <NicholasHill> Second topic:
"Tips on finding new friends that are natural DJs"
[00:50] <Pimp-ish> I need help with this one myself
[00:50] <Pimp-ish> :)
[00:50] <NicholasHill> i guess it follows on quite nicely - wingmen for
clubs etc
[00:50] <digitalrat> this one is interesting
[00:50] <NicholasHill> first of all, what would you classify as a natural
dj?
[00:50] <squirrels> You gotta be DJ to meet other DJs. Alpha males don't
WANT to lead betas around...they want to go do their own thing, possibly with
other alphas who understand that.
[00:50] <fender85> a guy who's just naturally confident, and good with
ladies, but he doesn't really know why
[00:50] <Pimp-ish> someone who's mastered approaching women to the point
that he is successful more than 50% of the time
[00:51] <Boricua_33015> someone who is in control of the situation....
havin a good time
[00:51] <digitalrat> I'm looking for some DJ friends, you can feed off
their energy, and 2 DJs together, theres no stopping them
[00:51] <Ojete> someone who takes the effort to go out and take action by
himself, who keeps trying and improving not only with girls but as a persona
[00:51] <fender85> i mean we're all going from nons to dons, but this guy
doesn't even think about it, he just is
[00:51] <NicholasHill> true
[00:51] <Ojete> without previous knowledge
[00:51] <Ojete> i mean reading
[00:51] <NicholasHill> have any of you actually met up with other DJs from
the boards? (possibly none)
[00:51] <Ojete> no
[00:51] <Pimp-ish> nope
[00:51] <Andy> no
[00:52] <fender85> nope. i know of a few though. will be contacting them
next time i am in their area
[00:52] <Boricua_33015> no
[00:52] <Pimp-ish> Where are all of you guys from?
[00:52] <Pimp-ish> I'm from NYC
[00:52] <NicholasHill> ok then, have any of you guys met up with people
you would consider naturals? how well did you do as a team?
[00:52] <fender85> wilkesboro, north carolina (between charlotte, winston
salem, and boone)
[00:52] <Andy> im from thns
[00:52] <Boricua_33015> Miami
[00:52] <Andy> im from Athens Greece
[00:53] <WWFC> my mom "hey son where you off to" me "oh
just to meet this guy i met on the internet"
[00:53] <Ojete> cuba
[00:53] <Pimp-ish> lol
(netsplit)
[00:55] <squirrels> Do you notice certain
traits that natural DJs you've met seem to have in common? Things that might be
responsible for their natural DJ-ism?
[00:58] <WWFC> (porno music)
[00:58] <fender85> i thought someone had farted
[01:00] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:00] <NicholasHill> this is where we left off:
[01:00] <NicholasHill> [00:52] <Andy> im from Athens Greece
[01:00] <NicholasHill> [00:53] <WWFC> my mom "hey son where you
off to" me "oh just to meet this guy i met on the internet"
[01:00] <NicholasHill> [00:53] <Ojete> cuba
[01:00] <NicholasHill> [00:53] <Pimp-ish> lol
[01:00] <NicholasHill> i asked the following question:
[01:00] <NicholasHill> ok then, have any of you guys met up with people
you would consider naturals? how well did you do as a team?
[01:00] <fender85> i know a natural DJ. we're awesome together. our
C&F lines just play perfect off of each other
[01:01] <WWFC> i mighty introduce my friend but i couldnt see him
understanding
[01:01] <fender85> the game just came naturally to him. and although i had
to learn it, we still make a good team
[01:02] <NicholasHill> how important do you think it is to get together
with someone else?
[01:02] <fender85> uhh starting off, it's VERY important
[01:02] <fender85> remember learning to ride a bike? someone had to push
you off
[01:02] <Pimp-ish> I think it is very important as well..
[01:02] <squirrels> Being with someone else makes me feel more
comfortable, cuz if I get shut down, I can go back and laugh with my friends.
[01:02] <Ojete> they can help you stay motivated by their actions and
encourage you to start taking action
[01:03] <fender85> i think it's great. i mean you see them in action, so
you ante up and go to work as well
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[01:03] <NicholasHill> what if you're looking for new alpha men?
[01:04] <NicholasHill> to be your friends?
[01:04] <Pimp-ish> Exactly..and the better you know him, the more you can
play off each other
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[01:04] <NicholasHill> for those guys who've come back: a log is being
made, you'll be able to read what you missed later
[01:04] <WWFC> i could say that i know a lot of alpha men, but none around
women
[01:05] <fender85> i only know one
[01:05] <fender85> he's really good though
[01:05] <NicholasHill> do you think the source of a great wingman will
come from someone new, or do you think that converting existing friends is
easier / better / wiser?
[01:05] <squirrels> YOu need to be good to convert people.
[01:06] <WWFC> they need to be willing and open minded
[01:06] <fender85> friends would be wiser in the long run i think. but i
mean if this "someone new" is already into the DJ lifestyle, i think
you'll find your night out to be more productive
[01:06] <Ojete> it depends on the person, but a friend you know for a long
time will be more difficult to change and you would have to be patient
[01:06] <NicholasHill> do you think it is possible to create social proof
in a, for example, club, all in one night, for one night?
[01:06] <Ojete> i agree with fender
[01:06] <Pimp-ish> the problem therein lies, how do you find a wingman...
look around at the club for someone who is pulling off women left and right?
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[01:07] <Pimp-ish> and then how do you convince him to be YOUR wingman?
[01:07] <fender85> nicolas - yes, in a way. just walk around like you own
the place. like it's YOUR club. people will begin to notice you
[01:07] <Ojete> sometimes friends or friends you meet at a party will
notice you and come up to talk, then you get rapport with them
[01:07] <Pimp-ish> I believe it is possible to create social proof if you
act like you know everyone
[01:08] <Pimp-ish> well..not act
[01:08] <Pimp-ish> if you do know a lot of people
[01:08] <Pimp-ish> both women and men
[01:08] <Ojete> i mean "friends of friends"
[01:08] <Pimp-ish> and dance with your attractive female friends at the
beginning of the night
[01:08] <Pimp-ish> just to show off that social proof
[01:09] <WWFC> or you could just go straight up to the alpha of the party
and sit next to him
[01:09] <NicholasHill> is the club the only place to make friends with
potential wingmen?
[01:09] <Pimp-ish> WWFC: have you ever done this before?
[01:09] <WWFC> no
[01:09] <WWFC> just thinking
[01:09] <fender85> hell no. work, your school (classes, and at your dorm,
apartment, etc)
[01:10] <fender85> that was directed at nicholas' question . . .
[01:10] <WWFC> its hard really i mean what you gonna do ask the guy for
his number?
[01:11] <Pimp-ish> see..this is my problem. You can have wingmen that will
work off of you, but how do you get an Alpha Male to help you out? (I dont have
nay friends that I can consider an Alpha Male)
[01:11] <WWFC> if hes a DJ hes got enough mates already
[01:11] <fender85> your gym too. i mean i get to know a lot of guys at the
gym since we're all working out together
[01:11] <NicholasHill> final topic in about five minutes, guys
[01:11] <Pimp-ish> true
[01:12] <NicholasHill> so, there can only really be one question on this
section: do any of you have tips for finding guys that are natural djs?
[01:12] <fender85> strange how we talk about getting girls in the first
topic, and now in this topic we're trying to figure out where and how to get
guys. lol
[01:12] <WWFC> lol
[01:12] <Pimp-ish> haha
[01:13] <Pimp-ish> finding Alpha Males to work with you is the hard one I
think..
[01:13] <fender85> nicholas - look around you i guess. you'll know an
alpha male when you see him. the confidence, the people around him doing
whatever he's doing, etc
[01:14] <WWFC> if your with a large group and hes on his own you could
invite him in i suppose
[01:14] <digitalrat> http://www.facethejury.com/profile.asp?user_name=SexyLindsay
[01:14] <fender85> andy - don't forget to make eye contact, smile, and
then say hi
[01:14] <digitalrat> that chick is hot, but a moron
[01:14] <digitalrat> look at that spelling
[01:15] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:15] <NicholasHill> guys ... time for the final topic of discussion
tonight
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[01:15] <fender85> i think we're ready for the next topic . . .
Long Term Relationships
[01:15] <NicholasHill> Final topic:
"Long term relationships"
[01:15] <fender85> nevermind. lol
[01:15] <WWFC> lol
[01:15] <NicholasHill> finding girls, finding men, i think we've covered
everyone...
[01:16] <Guest> Slickster here
[01:16] <NicholasHill> are any of you guys in a long term relationship?
[01:16] <fender85> finding barnyard animals . . .
[01:16] <WWFC> lol
[01:16] <Pimp-ish> nope
[01:16] <fender85> i'm not in a long term relationship. that's a choice
though
[01:16] <Guest> Yes
[01:17] <Pimp-ish> with most of us, I would hope that would be a choice
[01:17] <WWFC> not me either, being out of college has limited my
opportunities
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[01:17] <NicholasHill> given a choice, would you go for a one night stand,
a short term relationship, or long term relationship?
[01:17] <Pimp-ish> STR
[01:17] <WWFC> around where i live you might see one approachable girla
month if your lucky
[01:18] <YO> one a month! jesus
[01:18] <YO> you gotta move yer ass somewhere
[01:18] <WWFC> hard to believe but..
[01:18] <Guest> One approachable!?
[01:18] <Pimp-ish> short-term and here's why... when I finally do get
"settled down", I want to be able to say that I have
[01:18] <Guest> Thats harsh]
[01:18] <fender85> nick - i can't say. i mean i just do a lot of playing
the field right now. i have several different girls that i date on occasion, but
currently they're a little too far away to really consider a good LTR
[01:18] <WWFC> yeah but at college im spoilt for choice
[01:18] <Pimp-ish> 1) Gotten all the sex and fun out of short term
relationships that I wanted
[01:19] <YO> you cant really PICK what you want, it has to just happen, or
else you are gonna be flucked up bigtime
[01:19] <Pimp-ish> 2) Know exactly what I want from a woman because of the
experience of so many different relationships
[01:19] <fender85> yes, i know EXACTLY what i want from a woman . . .
[01:19] <Guest> How long does it take you to tell if she's LTR material?
[01:19] <NicholasHill> lol
[01:20] <Pimp-ish> 3) Have solid understanding of how different women
work, what makes them tick, and how they are related to your goals in life
[01:20] <Pimp-ish> Guest: I'd say at least 3 solid months...
[01:20] <Guest> Yeah a couple menstrual cycles
[01:20] <Pimp-ish> but I'm planning not having a long-term relationship
for a while
[01:20] <fender85> i'm afraid to have too many ONS's and stuff though. i
mean it's gonna severely impair your chances of a LTR if she notices that large
"cold sore" on your lip
[01:21] <Pimp-ish> yea..I think ONS are too messy
[01:21] <NicholasHill> if someone here has had a ltr could they say so
[01:21] <WWFC> lol
[01:21] <Guest> I live in a small town and my buddy is a major player and
now there isn't a chick around who'll touch him
[01:21] <fender85> no andy, you want to try your stuff IN a lot of girls
[01:21] <WWFC> i dont get chance to go to clubs because im not old enough
but i dont think im ever gonna go for one night stands
[01:22] <Ojete> how do you keep DJing when you're in a LTR?
[01:22] <NicholasHill> good question Ofus
[01:22] <fender85> that is a great challenge
[01:22] <NicholasHill> err, Ojete
[01:22] <Guest> Don't get to needy
[01:22] <Guest> Keep chatting up chicks
[01:22] <WWFC> keeping things unpredictable in the ltr is enough trouble
[01:22] <fender85> i mean you have to supplicate to a certain degree,
otherwise you're just being impractical for a LTR, but you still need to
maintain some form of independece
[01:22] <fender85> independence*
[01:23] <Guest> Be the fun loving guy that talks to everyone
[01:23] <Guest> Then she knows she better be treating you right
[01:23] <Guest> or your gone
[01:23] <Ojete> always being the challenge
[01:23] <WWFC> Andy - keeping in practice
[01:23] <Pimp-ish> how many of you are into ONS?
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[01:24] <fender85> just bring home a replacement girl every month or so.
that'll keep her from getting any funny ideas
[01:24] <NicholasHill> there'll be a time for questions&answers in
about 6 minutes, guys
[01:24] <Pimp-ish> sure..
[01:24] <Pimp-ish> ok I'll hold mine
[01:24] <Ojete> would you do the boot camp being with your LTR
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[01:24] <DZ> Where's my modspot???
[01:24] <fender85> boot camp isn't for LTRs
[01:24] <Ojete> i mean for practice
[01:24] <Pimp-ish> no he meant while being in a LTR
[01:25] <Ojete> yes
[01:25] <WWFC> the first weeks yeah
[01:25] <DZ> Nic - u told me I get a mod spot N still nothing
[01:25] <Pimp-ish> I don't see why you can't chat up a girl even though
are in a LTRT
[01:25] <fender85> uhh, if you don't mind possibly cheating on your LTR
[01:25] <fender85> or if you want to be a twat tease . . .
[01:25] <Guest> Nah it keeps her on her toes
[01:25] <WWFC> i wanna be that guy
[01:25] <DZ> talking to others is not a problem
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[01:26] <Guest> exactly as long as you talk to everybody
[01:26] <fender85> talking isn't. but i'd see a problem with really DJing
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[01:26] <DZ> when you are in a LTR - Going to dates while you ARE in a LTR
is
[01:26] <WWFC> if your in a ltr, the girls are gonna come
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[01:26] <DZ> I assume by LTR u mean, being exclusive already
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[01:27] <fender85> i thought that was the general concept of a long term
relationship
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> Just wanna be precise
[01:27] <NicholasHill> three minutes before question time, guys
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> question???
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> huh?
[01:27] <Dice1> what is question time, will there be beverages served?
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> What is this hosted thing anyways?
[01:27] <Guest> This is a cool idea nick
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> I just joined
[01:27] <Dee-Zy> ?_?
[01:28] <Dice1> haha all those dudes got signed off!
[01:28] <Dice1> lol
[01:28] <WWFC> lol
[01:28] <Dee-Zy> well
[01:28] <Dee-Zy> I'll bbl
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[01:28] <Dice1> you know, you can use any name you want here
[01:28] <Dee-Zy> I have some stuff to do
[01:28] <NicholasHill> haha, hehehe
[01:28] <Dice1> you dont need a password
[01:28] <Dee-Zy> how long is this gonna be?
[01:28] <Dice1> 500 years
[01:28] <NicholasHill> hah
[01:28] <Dee-Zy> hopefully I'll have enough time to get back
[01:28] <NicholasHill> ok, anything else about long term relationships
guys?
[01:29] <WWFC> ...
[01:29] <Ojete> i have one more
[01:29] <fender85> dee-zy . . . hopefully it'll last longer than my first
sexual experience ;)
[01:29] <Dee-Zy> lol
[01:29] <Dee-Zy> anyways
[01:29] <WWFC> haha
[01:29] <Dee-Zy> here's one for all of you guys
[01:29] <Ojete> can you handle falling in love? does it interfere with
your DJ skills ?
[01:29] <Dee-Zy> Would you consider going into a LTR with a younger
girl???
[01:29] <Dee-Zy> no - it doesn't
[01:29] <fender85> haven't really fallen in love since i started the DJ
path
[01:29] <WWFC> whaat like that american marine (jk
[01:30] <Guest> Young c hicks are harder to hold on to.
[01:30] <fender85> i've been maintaining several girls, that way i don't
get one-itis
[01:30] <Dice1> younger girls are better
[01:30] <Dee-Zy> I'm talking about 1 or 2 years younger
[01:30] <Pimp-ish> Dee-Zy: how much younger?
[01:30] <Andy> i dont fancy ltr
[01:30] <Dee-Zy> why are they better?
[01:30] <Pimp-ish> that's nothing
[01:30] <fender85> dice1 - you sound like a porn site
[01:30] <Dice1> because there are more years before they get old
[01:30] <Dee-Zy> let's say a 19 and 18-17 difference range
[01:30] <Pimp-ish> 1-2 yrs is not a big deal.. girls mature faster than
guys anyway
[01:30] <Dice1> i am talking like difference between 18-20 and 28-32ish
[01:30] <NicholasHill> girls mature 2 years faster, i think
[01:31] <Pimp-ish> that wouldn't be a big difference
[01:31] <fender85> "that's what i like about those freshmen chicks .
. . i keep getting older and they stay the same age"
[01:31] <Dee-Zy> exactly, wouldn't u rather have an OLDER girl? (in a LTR)
[01:31] <Dice1> a girl peaks at like 22 or 23
[01:31] <Guest> When you guys get old like me you're gonna realize how
flaky those young chicks are
[01:31] <NicholasHill> ok guys
[01:31] <Dice1> then she starts to fade away......dude, i LOVE flaky, I
LOVE IT....
[01:31] * fender85 agrees with Guest
[01:31] <Dee-Zy> I see it like this...
[01:31] <Dice1> the flaker they are the sexier they are man
[01:31] <Guest> As long as you don't get attached
[01:32] <Dee-Zy> Older are harder to get...
[01:32] <Dee-Zy> therefore...
[01:32] <Pimp-ish> Guest: when we're as old as you, we'll go after girls
closer to our age as well.. he was stating 1-2 year difference
[01:32] <Dee-Zy> Older is better
[01:32] <Pimp-ish> older girls are harder to get
[01:32] <NicholasHill> we'll move on to a more general time now
[01:32] <Dice1> older are EASIER man, much much much much easier
[01:32] <NicholasHill> if you could bring these lines to a close within a
minute
[01:32] <fender85> when i was an AFC i got SO attached to girls, so now i
keep a few around to keep from getting one-itis. i guess i'm scared that after
all this progress, i'll fall back into my old ways
[01:32] <Guest> Pimpish : I guarantee you'll still go after young girls
when your old
[01:32] <Pimp-ish> Guest: haha.. I can't say for sure right now
[01:33] <Dice1> the farther away from 22 you get, the worse the girls are
[01:33] <Pimp-ish> but I think eventually I'll have my fun and settle for
something serious
[01:33] <Guest> I turned 30 last year and thought it was over for me
[01:33] <Guest> But I've had more fun in one year than my hole life
[01:33] <Dee-Zy> older are harder to get so wouldn't u agree that younger
is bad?
[01:33] <fender85> Guest - but in a creepier, "old man", kind of
way
[01:33] <Dice1> YOUR age don't matter one jot, the girls age i was talking
bout
[01:33] <Guest> ya ya]
[01:33] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:33] <NicholasHill> this is great...
Questions and answers
[01:33] <NicholasHill> Questions and
answers
[01:34] <digitalrat> Dice1: Flakyness gets highly annoying
[01:34] <Dice1> why would HARDER to get equal BETTER? is this an ego game
you play?
[01:34] <Guest> Young chicks throw themselves at older guys
[01:34] <Dice1> i love it
[01:34] <Dee-Zy> dice1: wouldn't???
[01:34] <NicholasHill> this is how q&a is going to work
[01:34] <Dee-Zy> guest - exactly, it's too easy
[01:34] <WWFC> cheers for the chat NICK im off
[01:34] * WWFC (javachat@Star11879.cable.ubr03.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk) Quit
(Quit: Leaving)
[01:34] <NicholasHill> one person will ask a question, everyone will
respond
[01:34] <fender85> well i need to get some dinner, so i guess i'll make
like a fetus and head out first. it's been great talking to you guys, my AIM
name is fender85 so if you ever wanna chat just let me know
[01:34] <Dee-Zy> nic - sound good
[01:34] <Dice1> this is hard to follow
[01:34] * DJIronGirevik (javachat@66.194.2.416) Quit (Ping timeout)
[01:35] <Dee-Zy> lol @ fetus line
[01:35] <NicholasHill> if you have a question, say "Raise my
hand" or something!
[01:35] <fender85> i have one more . . .
[01:35] <Dice1> that is a corny line
[01:35] <fender85> i'm going to make like a fat kid in dodgeball and get
out . . .
[01:35] <Dice1> ha ha that was corny to
[01:36] <NicholasHill> and then others will answer, and when all questions
are done, the event will finish
[01:36] <NicholasHill> questions can be about anything
[01:36] <Dice1> hahahah
[01:36] <Guest> I'm off like a prom dress
[01:36] <Dice1> its cool though, you da man
[01:36] <Dee-Zy> LOL @ prom dress
[01:36] <fender85> appreciated. later guys
[01:36] <Dee-Zy> so anyways
[01:36] * fender85 (javachat@Star53107.hkry.nc.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[01:36] * Dee-Zy raises hand
[01:36] * NicholasHill points to Dee-Zy
[01:36] <Dee-Zy> lol
[01:36] * Dice1 Laughs Out Loud :D
[01:36] * Dice1 waves! o/~ Hello everybody!
[01:36] <Dee-Zy> alrighty
[01:36] <Dee-Zy> My question is...
[01:36] <Dice1> are you sure nick?
[01:38] <Dice1> stay away from the sheep DZ! lol
[01:38] <Dee-Zy> dice1: less, as in ... what you wouldn't usually go for
but since there isn't anything else...
[01:38] <Guest> Dee where you from
[01:38] <Dee-Zy> lol
[01:38] <Dee-Zy> Gatineau
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[01:38] <Guest> Quebec
[01:38] <digitalrat> Dee-Zy: move lol
[01:39] * Ojete raises hand
[01:39] <Andy> i didnt evn know the place :)
[01:39] <Dice1> i dunno, find some where else to go
[01:39] * Stinger911 is now known as Duke
[01:39] * NicholasHill points to Ofus
[01:39] <Dee-Zy> gee, that's helpfull lol
[01:39] * NicholasHill points to Ojete
[01:39] <NicholasHill> hah
[01:39] <Dice1> hahahaha
[01:39] <Ojete> any tips / guidelines to get a friend into the DJ ways,
sosuave...
[01:39] <NicholasHill> sorry Dee-Zy, what was your question?
[01:39] <Guest> You military Dee ZY
[01:39] <Dee-Zy> military? lol
[01:39] <Dee-Zy> a fuck it
[01:39] <Dee-Zy> I'll get out of this rut by myself
[01:39] <Dice1> i dunno, you can't make a woman out of thin air....watch
porn while you screw the dog chicks?
[01:40] <Pimp-ish> no chicks in Quebec?
[01:40] <Guest> Don't get your friends involved more competition
[01:40] <Guest> I hear french chicks are horny
[01:40] <Dice1> who cares about competition? YOU WANT your friends to be
with you
[01:40] <digitalrat> i hear their hairy too
[01:40] <Andy> well i would rather be with a friend and hit a girl than to
go on my own
[01:40] <Dee-Zy> no that's french chicks from france not quebec
[01:40] <Guest> They'll think you're gay when you tell them about so suave
[01:40] <Dice1> i hate the stuff about "oh, i dont want my friends to
be DJ"....please
[01:41] <Dice1> sosuave is NOTHING NEW.......NOTHING NEW.....
[01:41] <Guest> I hate guys who need their buddies to pick up chicks
[01:41] <Dice1> you want to help your loser friends
[01:41] <digitalrat> we are an ultra race baby lol
[01:41] <Ojete> lol
[01:41] * NicholasHill sets mode: +v Duke
[01:41] <Dee-Zy> I think we need a new question here
[01:41] * Pimp-ish raises his hand
[01:41] <Dice1> sigh.....some of you...i just don't know about some of you
[01:42] <Dice1> speak pimpish
[01:42] <Dice1> let it all out
[01:42] * NicholasHill points to Pimp-ish
[01:42] <Pimp-ish> this is somewhat personal, but..
[01:42] <Pimp-ish> Question: For those of you who are into ONS, it
obviously can get messy since you don't know the girl. Do you take protective
measures outside of regular condoms, such as oral condoms?
[01:42] <Dee-Zy> oral condoms???
[01:42] <Pimp-ish> yes
[01:42] <Pimp-ish> they exist
[01:42] <Dee-Zy> what the hell is that?
[01:42] <Pimp-ish> to prevent herpes
[01:42] <Dee-Zy> never heard of it
[01:42] <Dee-Zy> u mean condom while having oral sex?
[01:43] <digitalrat> What song are you listening too right now?
[01:43] <Pimp-ish> yes
[01:43] <Dee-Zy> oh
[01:43] <Pimp-ish> it a small condom you put on the tip of your penis
[01:43] <Pimp-ish> never mind
[01:43] <Pimp-ish> lol
[01:43] <Dee-Zy> sorry can't help u
[01:43] <Dee-Zy> I'm out
[01:43] <NicholasHill> ok, time for two or three more questions
[01:43] <Dice1> peace guys, i hope yall have a great day
[01:43] * Dee-Zy is now known as tooBZtobeDZ
[01:43] * Dice1 (javachat@Star48116.cl.ri.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[01:44] <tooBZtobeDZ> bbl
[01:44] <Guest> Not gay but: Do you guys ever feel like you have a 1000
brothers here at the DJ forum
[01:44] <tooBZtobeDZ> I hope this will still go on
[01:44] <tooBZtobeDZ> GHOST
[01:44] <NicholasHill> i think the dj group is split up into three parts
[01:45] <NicholasHill> annoying newbies, good people, bad people
[01:45] * Guest (javachat@24.69.216.407) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[01:45] <Andy> im good people material :)
[01:45] <NicholasHill> lol
[01:45] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:45] <NicholasHill> any more questions?
[01:45] <NicholasHill> not gonna drag it out, guys
[01:46] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:46] <Andy> do u guys use the mobile phones enough?
[01:46] <Ojete> anyone works out
[01:47] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:47] <Andy> cause i do lots of seducing via sms
[01:47] <NicholasHill> getting a little thin now
[01:47] <NicholasHill> thanks guys for coming!
[01:47] <Andy> :)
[01:47] * tooBZtobeDZ raises hands
[01:47] <NicholasHill> i hope you've all enjoyed the hosted event, i'm
sure there'll be another one soon
[01:47] <Ojete> i enjoyed it
[01:47] <tooBZtobeDZ> I have a question
[01:47] <tooBZtobeDZ> last one
[01:47] <NicholasHill> a log will be made and cleaned up and posted
[01:47] <tooBZtobeDZ> I think this is somewhat insightfull
[01:48] <tooBZtobeDZ> Would u consider dating a girl you KNOW is not gonna
put out (because of religious beliefs)
[01:48] <NicholasHill> answers?
[01:48] <Ojete> no, there are many others
[01:48] <Andy> no
[01:48] <tooBZtobeDZ> considering that you KNOW girls that wants your dick
[01:49] <NicholasHill> ok
[01:50] <Andy> thats all i guess
[01:50] <NicholasHill> The event is now finished - thanks for coming
everyone ... you may remain if you wish but that is the end
* Retrieving #donjuan info...
[01:50] * NicholasHill sets mode: -m
[01:50] <Ojete> good night
[01:50] * NicholasHill changes topic to 'Don Juan Chat'
[01:50] <NicholasHill> it lased 110 minutes!